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Guys, I thought this might be of interest to some here. This holster is a nightmare. http://totalprotectioninteractive.co...ead.php?t=1454
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Thanks Paul. As I posted at TPI, a couple of guys from my agency had ordered two of these for testing. A very dangerous holster and definitely not what we need.
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Just trying to get the word out. More & more of these things are trying to turn up in classes and everytime there is another Blackhawk media blitz it starts all over again. What scares me right now is how heavily they are marketing this thing to soldiers and Marines deploying to a very unforgiving environment...
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#4
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While I can't post the pics, the text of the review is posted below.
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Over the last year, I have developed some serious concerns with the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster design. Various persons have brought these concerns to the attention of Blackhawk on several occasions and Blackhawk has chosen to ignore these very real issues.
The ‘Serpa Active Retention’ design consists of a plastic L-shaped component which functions as the release button [from the outside of the holster] and as the lock [which engages inside the trigger guard]. The short leg of the L-shaped lever pivots inward [toward the pistol], while the locking tab pivots outward to release the pistol from the holster. According to the Blackhawk website, ”The release is made using your normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger beside the holster body. … As your trigger finger naturally comes to rest on the SERPA lock’s release mechanism, simply push the mechanism as you draw the weapon and it releases the gun for a smooth, fast draw.” While Blackhawk may intend for the end-user to apply inboard pressure with the flat of the index finger, under stress, shooters tend to push the button with the tip of their index finger. After all, this is the manner in which most people have the most repetitions pushing buttons such as keys on a keypad or phone or ringing doorbells. When the finger pushes in on the release button and the user initiates the upward motion of the drawstroke, the finger tends to stay in motion and as the trigger guard clears the holster, the finger enters the trigger guard and contacts the trigger, with possibly tragic results. I am aware of two instances where trained personnel have shot themselves using this holster in conjunction with Glock pistols. In August of 2004, a situation occurred with a live weapon that resulted in the shooter losing a 10cm piece of her femur. The other occurred with nonlethal training ammunitions in a force-on-force event in April of 2005. The impact of the NLTA was in the same area as the actual gunshot wound previously mentioned. Following each of these events, Blackhawk was contacted and advised of the problems observed and concerns raised. In the first instance, they claimed that they were unaware of any previous issues with the design and insisted that the design had been ‘thoroughly tested by law enforcement and military personnel’. After the second event, they were contacted by at least two people. Again, they stated that they were unaware of any concerns and had heard nothing similar from any sources. |
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If this were not disturbing enough, in October 2005, while assisting with a class in Casa Grande, AZ, additional concerns surfaced. During a force-on-force evolution, when a student attempted to draw an NLTA-modified Glock 17 from his Blackhawk Serpa holster, he was unable to free the gun from the holster.
In fact, the gun was so tightly held in the holster that, with one person applying both hands to the release button and another person applying two hands to the pistol, the gun could not be freed. Upon inspection, a small piece of gravel, approximately the size of the head of a pin, had managed to work itself into the Serpa release button and wedge the lock in place. While trying to effect a release of the pistol from the holster, the entire holster popped off of the belt. The three screws that attach the holster body to the belt plate simply slipped through the tracks in the belt plate without apparent damage. Of what use is a retention holster that does not keep the gun on the belt? In my opinion, the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster is a severely flawed design. It offers the theoretical advantage of security while, in reality, offering none. It does not hold up to the rigors of realistic training. It accentuates the possibility of an unintentional discharge. It is unsafe. If you, or anyone known to you, are currently using one of these holsters, please reconsider. Sincerely, Paul Gomez 225.921.5900 |
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I've been using one of the non-serpa versions for about 6-7 months and it's been holding up well. I used it in the P'Cola CRG2 last month with no problems. I didn't want the serpa fearing the exact things posted above. IMHO the non-serpa version is a decent product. It seems to hold up well so far. I didn't notice any shortfalls during FOF. I'll post if/when I find something wrong with it.
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Don,
Does the non-Serpa attach with the same "three screws in slots" arrangement as the Serpa? If so, it will not hold up to much aggressive training. On TPI [the original posting site for the review], you can see pics of the backface of the holster from Arizona. There is no obvious damage to the screws or their mounting points, but the belt plate is missing! This is do the screw heads slipping through the tracks at an angle while we were trying to free the gun from the holster. The holster body was being supported and the gun was being pulled straight up [just as though it were part of a drawstroke] and there was still enough flex that the whole thing popped off the belt plate. |
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Mr. Gomez,
You have now been removed from Blackhawk's Christmas list. I hope you are proud of yourself. |
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#10
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Quote:
[In my best "Swiper the Fox" voice} "Awe, Man!" |
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